Why is society obligating me to choose?

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Question by Jeroen: Why is society obligating me to choose?
I have the idea society is obligating me to choose between two options I don’t like at all:

1. eating meat like the omnivores a human being is supposed to be, and being part in animal ‘torturing’.
2. becoming a vegetarian and buying pills or expensive substitutes and leaving the natural way of living.

Now this is about society, don’t try to convince me we were never made to eat meat. I know enough about biology to know that is an urban legend.

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9 Responses to Why is society obligating me to choose?

  1. Vegans/vegetarians are asking you to choose, as an omnivore i don’t give a s**t what you choose to eat, or not eat.

    don b
    May 16, 2013 at 12:49 pm
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  2. Only if you buy into the fallacy that killing animals is “torture.” It’s not. In the USA, it is the law that animals killed for human consumption are killed in the most humane manner possible. (Unlike, BTW, the way small field animals are maimed, crippled and killed by farm equipment going through the fields plowing, planting and harvesting the grains and veggies that make up the vegetarian diet.)

    I’d suggest you find time to visit a cattle ranch and see cows grazing in the fields with their calves at side. Then take time to find a cattle feedlot. I think you’ll find it full of mostly content cattle chewing their cud. Beef is not produced in a barn or a crate. Most chickens and hogs are owned by the meat production company and raised in confinment; cattle are owned by individual ranchers/farmers and, believe me, they can’t afford to confine the cattle and feed them for their entire life.

    Or take a look at this website. It has links to farmers/ranchers across the country who produce grass fed products: http://www.eatwild.com/index.html

    Daisy
    May 16, 2013 at 1:34 pm
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  3. Unfortunately it’s always going to be that way, between the lesser of two evils (and animal friendly life and money.) People will always want money and strive for it.

    I don’t know a whole lot about going vegan, and having to take supplements, BUT you don’t need a ton of pills to go ovo-lacto vegetarian! 🙂 I’m not trying to convince you either way, but if you are curious, i have a ton of recipes on a blog i just started- and i promise, no weird ingredients you’ve never heard of, cheap, and all meat free <3

    http://harley-everydayveggie.blogspot.com/

    Kuro Bear
    May 16, 2013 at 1:53 pm
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  4. Society isn’t influencing you it is peer pressure, and you need an eyeopener about how the meat industry actually works.
    It is a small % of the industry that could be classed as ‘Torture’ unlike how PETA have brainwashed so many about they bad abattoirs and poor cattle handling.
    In the end it is up to you about how you live and your choice of foods
    Dune

    Dune
    May 16, 2013 at 2:19 pm
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  5. Lol vegetarians don’t need pills or expensive substitutes. There’s nothing that’s in meat that you can’t get elsewhere.

    I could not possibly care less what you eat. I doubt this “society” you’re referencing does either, considering the majority of people eat like crap.

    .
    May 16, 2013 at 2:54 pm
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  6. Humans are omnivores, no doubt about it. The reason my wife and I went dietary vegan was the fact that meat this is massively consumed these days are packed full of a toxic cocktail of hormones, antibiotics and other drugs that just aren’t safe for human consumption. And yes, I’ve read all the studies of how ‘safe’ they are, it doesn’t take in account of the increase of diabetes, cancer, and other ailments in the last 20-30 years, you are what you eat and when it comes down to it red meat is highly acidic for the PH of the body so it still promotes inflammation. And yes there is the grass fed local market but meat still has the unnecessary fats, cholesterol and mentioned high acidity that aren’t needed in the diet.

    This is why my wife and I went dietary vegan (or strict vegetarian, whatever you want to call it), We did it for our health primarily as we wanted to try something different (I’m also a cancer survivor). To be honest there’s isn’t any ‘expensive substitutes’, as long as you are eating properly with whole, natural foods you don’t need to take pills to supplement anything (except B12, which isn’t expensive).

    So yes, there will be those that try to sway you one way or the other, but when it comes down to it it’s your choice, be informed on what you are eating and where it is from. If you can’t trust the source then look somewhere else…

    EightOneFive
    May 16, 2013 at 3:50 pm
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  7. there is a member called “thesunflower” in the vegan section who is rudely answering my questions and then deleting them

    Heath H
    May 16, 2013 at 4:45 pm
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  8. I don’t give a sh*t whether you eat meat or not. Nobody obliges you to choose.

    But, you can always choose to eat meat only occasionally, and not every day like most people do. 🙂

    Elluna
    May 16, 2013 at 5:32 pm
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  9. You have no obligation to do anything. YOU decide what you want to do. If you want to kill animals, you have that right. If you want to not kill animals, you also have that right.

    You don’t need “expensive supplements and pills” to be a vegetarian. You don’t even need B12. 1c of coconut milk has 50% of your RDA.

    Yep, Homo sapien has consumed meat for survival basically since they evolved. They had to do it to survive. They also lived in caves, used every part of the animal they killed, and actually ate meat fairly rarely. Studies have shown over and over that “we” were far better at gathering than at hunting.

    Now “we” have factory farms, supermarkets, and the ability to thrive without animal flesh or animal byproducts, so we CHOOSE to continue killing, but for pleasure, not for survival.

    Are you a liar or just confrontational and paranoid?

    Moxie
    May 16, 2013 at 6:29 pm
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