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25 Responses to VR to Jack Regarding Oven Canning
Thank you so much for the valuable information! I have wanted to try
canning but have been on the fence about it. Canning is a great way to go
but I don’t trust myself to do it right. No one in my family has ever
canned or dehydrated so I am a total newcomer to this. I love your videos
and your explanations of why things are done a certain way. Thanks for
addressing this question.
I do love the research info you post. The giggle at the end of this vid is
so fun…….shows your pleasure in the silly things people do and or try.
My Grandmother was the worst cook..sort of on purpose. She took pleasure in
pranks etc. Some of the things she fed us were worthy of a few books on how
NOT to cook. haha. thanks for the vid
It was actually a very good question. After I made the video I read some
newspaper articles from the 40’s that reported oven canning accidents. Some
oven doors were blown off. I read in the very old cookbooks that they
didn’t use many spices because they had no nutritional value. They saw it
as a waste. They also prided themselves on taking the simplest ingredients
and turning them into something wonderful.
It’s not recommended to put your canning jars in the oven. According to
Ball, who makes the jars, they are designed to work with wet heat not dry
heat. There’s uneven heat in an oven which can result in hot spots and cold
spots in the jars which will weaken the jars and eventually lead to
breakage. Back when they were doing oven canning, jars would explode when
the oven door was opened and cold air hit them. People were seriously
injured. Some oven doors were even blown off.
Linda, another thing you might talk about is this: folks using old
mayonnaise and other non-canning glass containers. My mother used to do
this and she always lost a lot of her canned goods either in the
canner…(terrible sound…of glass jars exploding in the canner!!) or them
breaking as they were taken out of the hot canner. What a loss.
Great minds think alike, lol. I hope you mentioned that most of our
Grandma’s learned how to can during that time period. They were most likely
following the USDA’s recommendations but they changed and Grandma didn’t.
This is a reason to remember Grandma with our hearts and not our canners.
She would want it that way. Looking forward to the video!
I also read an interesting article about a survey they did years ago about
home canning. It has a breakdown on cases of botulism, which were rare, but
it’s interesting to note the foods that presented the most problems. I’ll
add a link to that article in the description box too.
horticultureandhomes
February 5, 2014 at 5:14 pm Reply
I wish I was the type of person that could just focus on one thing and
totally master it. I’m all over the board. I guess if push came to shove it
would be better to know a little about a whole lot than a whole lot about
very little. We’re on track for that, lol.
I’m SO GLAD you mentioned the part about NOT HEATING THE JARS IN THE OVEN,
I had read long ago, that the manufacturers said not to use that method
too, and it seems that many are still using it. It IS dangerous. If the
manufacturer says no, then it should be no!
Thanks for that I wasn’t going to try canning in the oven I just thought it
was interesting that it was in this book, like I said I have tried some of
the recipes in this cook book and none of them were favorable as they were
but I know from what I have learned over the years that in the old days
people tended to eat blander foods than what we are accustomed to these
days so it’s just a matter of tweaking some of these recipes to bring them
into the 21st century. Thanks for the link also.
LOL, the thing is, I find almost EVERYTHING interesting and I know most
people don’t. I drive my husband nuts because I’m fascinated with the
tiniest details. I try not to do that to all of you. My grandma was the
same way. Her cooking was so bad that my grandfather did the majority of
the cooking. I can only think of 3 things she cooked well and I hope to
share her apple dumplings with you some day.
Hi there! I have a question. I have always used canner jars for most of my
dry goods but found out some people are dry canning in the oven. Is this
safe to do or by what you read is it dangerous even with dry goods not
liquids. I have never had a problem with my dry goods going bad but if it
increases storage life I might do it. Thanks:)
The vision of someone canning in a dishwasher cracked me up too. Then
there’s the compost heap, LOL. I’m with you, I want to know the best way to
do things, I can figure out how to crap it up all by myself, LOL.
I think that in the UK they do some type of oven canning. It may be what
you’re talking about. I wouldn’t do it. The jars aren’t designed to be used
in dry heat, it weakens them. I don’t know if keeping the lid off makes a
difference, but I’ve read news stories from back when they were oven
canning & there were serious injuries. Jars exploded when they opened the
oven door and the cool air hit them. Some oven doors were blown off the
blast was so severe. Vacuum sealing is okay with me.
The open kettle method was where they would just boil food and pour it into
sterilized jars, put the lids on, and as the jars cooled a vacuum was
hopefully formed. They didn’t process the jars at all. What you are doing
is fine. You can use any big pot you want to process the jars. My grandma
used the open kettle method. I loved her but her canning wasn’t safe. Very
often her jars didn’t seal.
Okay, so I always try to figure out what the heck someone was thinking just
before doing something completely idiotic. My daughter and I have run
through about 100 scenarios so far for the compost heap canner. The best
one so far – “And this jar is for my mother in law, and this jar is for
that hateful UPS man who threw my package over the fence, and this jar is
for…” Hmmm…..and this jar is for my son in law, and this jar is
for…um, ooops. Is this thing still on? *sheepish grin*
I’m the same! I have so many really old books on cooking, canning, growing,
and tons of other things, it almost scares me. I want to read about root
cellars, Spring Houses, cows, chickens, how to make a rug, you name it. I
make my husband crazy too! Look forward to your grandmothers apple
dumplings! Sounds great.
Thank you so much for the valuable information! I have wanted to try
canning but have been on the fence about it. Canning is a great way to go
but I don’t trust myself to do it right. No one in my family has ever
canned or dehydrated so I am a total newcomer to this. I love your videos
and your explanations of why things are done a certain way. Thanks for
addressing this question.
Terri D
February 5, 2014 at 10:29 am
I am glad to see canning making a comeback.
katiatomsk
February 5, 2014 at 10:47 am
I do love the research info you post. The giggle at the end of this vid is
so fun…….shows your pleasure in the silly things people do and or try.
My Grandmother was the worst cook..sort of on purpose. She took pleasure in
pranks etc. Some of the things she fed us were worthy of a few books on how
NOT to cook. haha. thanks for the vid
trvlbuggy
February 5, 2014 at 11:42 am
It was actually a very good question. After I made the video I read some
newspaper articles from the 40’s that reported oven canning accidents. Some
oven doors were blown off. I read in the very old cookbooks that they
didn’t use many spices because they had no nutritional value. They saw it
as a waste. They also prided themselves on taking the simplest ingredients
and turning them into something wonderful.
imstillworkin
February 5, 2014 at 12:41 pm
It’s not recommended to put your canning jars in the oven. According to
Ball, who makes the jars, they are designed to work with wet heat not dry
heat. There’s uneven heat in an oven which can result in hot spots and cold
spots in the jars which will weaken the jars and eventually lead to
breakage. Back when they were doing oven canning, jars would explode when
the oven door was opened and cold air hit them. People were seriously
injured. Some oven doors were even blown off.
imstillworkin
February 5, 2014 at 1:35 pm
Linda, another thing you might talk about is this: folks using old
mayonnaise and other non-canning glass containers. My mother used to do
this and she always lost a lot of her canned goods either in the
canner…(terrible sound…of glass jars exploding in the canner!!) or them
breaking as they were taken out of the hot canner. What a loss.
22justus2
February 5, 2014 at 2:13 pm
Great minds think alike, lol. I hope you mentioned that most of our
Grandma’s learned how to can during that time period. They were most likely
following the USDA’s recommendations but they changed and Grandma didn’t.
This is a reason to remember Grandma with our hearts and not our canners.
She would want it that way. Looking forward to the video!
imstillworkin
February 5, 2014 at 3:03 pm
I’m glad it helps. I know that a lot of people don’t want to get bogged
down with the details these days.
imstillworkin
February 5, 2014 at 3:40 pm
I also read an interesting article about a survey they did years ago about
home canning. It has a breakdown on cases of botulism, which were rare, but
it’s interesting to note the foods that presented the most problems. I’ll
add a link to that article in the description box too.
imstillworkin
February 5, 2014 at 4:25 pm
canning in the compost LOL. Never even crossed my mind HA HA HA HA.
Tina Madden
February 5, 2014 at 5:10 pm
Nice not ice> LOL!!
horticultureandhomes
February 5, 2014 at 5:14 pm
I wish I was the type of person that could just focus on one thing and
totally master it. I’m all over the board. I guess if push came to shove it
would be better to know a little about a whole lot than a whole lot about
very little. We’re on track for that, lol.
imstillworkin
February 5, 2014 at 6:05 pm
I’m SO GLAD you mentioned the part about NOT HEATING THE JARS IN THE OVEN,
I had read long ago, that the manufacturers said not to use that method
too, and it seems that many are still using it. It IS dangerous. If the
manufacturer says no, then it should be no!
Sheila6325 .
February 5, 2014 at 6:40 pm
I going to start calling you our prepper/canning historian!!!
willkaren4ver
February 5, 2014 at 6:43 pm
Thanks for that I wasn’t going to try canning in the oven I just thought it
was interesting that it was in this book, like I said I have tried some of
the recipes in this cook book and none of them were favorable as they were
but I know from what I have learned over the years that in the old days
people tended to eat blander foods than what we are accustomed to these
days so it’s just a matter of tweaking some of these recipes to bring them
into the 21st century. Thanks for the link also.
ewetubesuxass
February 5, 2014 at 7:43 pm
LOL, the thing is, I find almost EVERYTHING interesting and I know most
people don’t. I drive my husband nuts because I’m fascinated with the
tiniest details. I try not to do that to all of you. My grandma was the
same way. Her cooking was so bad that my grandfather did the majority of
the cooking. I can only think of 3 things she cooked well and I hope to
share her apple dumplings with you some day.
imstillworkin
February 5, 2014 at 8:04 pm
Hi there! I have a question. I have always used canner jars for most of my
dry goods but found out some people are dry canning in the oven. Is this
safe to do or by what you read is it dangerous even with dry goods not
liquids. I have never had a problem with my dry goods going bad but if it
increases storage life I might do it. Thanks:)
Itsme me
February 5, 2014 at 8:21 pm
The vision of someone canning in a dishwasher cracked me up too. Then
there’s the compost heap, LOL. I’m with you, I want to know the best way to
do things, I can figure out how to crap it up all by myself, LOL.
imstillworkin
February 5, 2014 at 8:38 pm
I think that in the UK they do some type of oven canning. It may be what
you’re talking about. I wouldn’t do it. The jars aren’t designed to be used
in dry heat, it weakens them. I don’t know if keeping the lid off makes a
difference, but I’ve read news stories from back when they were oven
canning & there were serious injuries. Jars exploded when they opened the
oven door and the cool air hit them. Some oven doors were blown off the
blast was so severe. Vacuum sealing is okay with me.
imstillworkin
February 5, 2014 at 8:48 pm
The open kettle method was where they would just boil food and pour it into
sterilized jars, put the lids on, and as the jars cooled a vacuum was
hopefully formed. They didn’t process the jars at all. What you are doing
is fine. You can use any big pot you want to process the jars. My grandma
used the open kettle method. I loved her but her canning wasn’t safe. Very
often her jars didn’t seal.
imstillworkin
February 5, 2014 at 9:27 pm
Okay, so I always try to figure out what the heck someone was thinking just
before doing something completely idiotic. My daughter and I have run
through about 100 scenarios so far for the compost heap canner. The best
one so far – “And this jar is for my mother in law, and this jar is for
that hateful UPS man who threw my package over the fence, and this jar is
for…” Hmmm…..and this jar is for my son in law, and this jar is
for…um, ooops. Is this thing still on? *sheepish grin*
CrowsNest2012
February 5, 2014 at 9:36 pm
imstillworkin, you always add a wealth of knowlege to our lives. Thank you
and God Bless !
missmamtube
February 5, 2014 at 10:25 pm
I’m the same! I have so many really old books on cooking, canning, growing,
and tons of other things, it almost scares me. I want to read about root
cellars, Spring Houses, cows, chickens, how to make a rug, you name it. I
make my husband crazy too! Look forward to your grandmothers apple
dumplings! Sounds great.
Sheila6325 .
February 5, 2014 at 11:19 pm
LOL, after they come out of the compost heap, you can run them through the
dishwasher, LOL.
imstillworkin
February 6, 2014 at 12:04 am
really good stuff to know… thank you…
skybirdbird
February 6, 2014 at 12:08 am