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I think the most memorable thing about this movie is the music score. Longhorns were raised for their hides, not the beef, the beef was rather tough. Nowadays they butcher cattle at 16 months, when the cattle are fully grown. Feeding them after that would be a loss of money. Dairy cows live for 7 or 8 years though. I sometimes wonder if the beef at fast food joints isn’t old slaughtered dairy cows. Anyone know?
gallantrycross
September 26, 2012 at 4:26 am Reply
It is a movie for everyone, about men. Far From The Madding Crowd or Tess, of the D’Urbervilles were “woman’s” stories but, I loved them both due, to Hardy’s great writing. A woman can influence a man though, in ways he doesn’t see coming; there is a thing called, “the love of your life”. That’s a CD I wrote & recorded in the picture, google it & tell me what you think. I’m re-writing a novel I just finished…”Jamie Robbins”. Kindles may make publishing easier. Good to talk to you.
I love MAN’S movies, I love men with passion who work to accomplish their big, tough goals. This is a ‘Classic’ man’s story of the relationships of men’s love, loyalties, respect and’getting the job done’. .Funny how the ‘interference’ of one woman can change the out come of the story. Tom and Matthew cam out ‘father and son’ instead of one of them Dead.
There are the cliche type of men who live only for sex(or think that sex is love)and can’t grasp the concept of real love. Unfortunately, I have known a few of those. Inferring homosexuality here is a total distortion of reality. Tom Dunson’s comment was a sign of respect for the boy’s gumption in standing up to him. He recognized that he had a strong character, possessed self-respect and confidence and would fight if he had to. Their relationship was built on respect, father-son love
Some may find this hard to believe, butI see Wayne’s and Walter Brennan’s characters right out of Greek drama. Walter Brennan’s character would have been Wayne’s slave in an ancient Greek play. Notice how Brennan is at Wayne’s beck and call. Just like a modern manservant. .
Howard Hawks was married three times and had one daughter. Homosexual undertones? You can make anything filth if you want to. These were different times not a place where gays flaunted themselves like a carnivorous bacteria infecting everything they touch. I don’t know what biased documentation you read. Sounds like the same wacko that recently published a pathetic slur against Paul Newman.
it’s good the movies on, but they forgot the gap where he finishes killing an indian in the first part
ragingbull5150
September 26, 2012 at 12:14 pm Reply
John Wayne represents the heterosexual man and not some homosexual agenda. Poor Howard Hawks. If he is trying to introduce strange ideas into a hard past that men had hard times just to endure, then maybe Mr. hawks wasn’t that much of an artist, but he was a social activists. I believe in all the good things about the USA the land i LOVE!
jamesnewton777
September 26, 2012 at 12:31 pm Reply
@JamesA46. Okay we get it, you know how to use wikipedia.
coreymitchelhoulden
September 26, 2012 at 12:57 pm Reply
Sorry I muddled the name, and please don’t be so serious about it. It’s a documented fact that Hawks’ movies presented homosexual undertones in a subtle but positive way. To deny it would be ignoring a large part of Hawks’ film work.
Hudson Hawks has even said before he died that many of his movies were about manlove, although this was never brought to the forefront of his movies (likely due to critical reaction and the time period). This movie is no exception. I’m not trolling, look it up.
Don’t either of these gentlemen understand the terms of the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo? Land needs to be stolen legally, with Lawyers, not with bullets. The bullets come later.
hs=horse shit , chan.you little fag. you too mcgready. why don’t the both of you go to the bowling alley bathroom and write some cute shit on the walls and leave the rest of the men here alone.
Everything in art is…a matter of interpretation. But, it seems that John Wayne was telling W. Brennan…”ok, here’s this crazy kid who could be a burden to us since, he just saw the wagon train murdered by Indians and yet, he sticks up for himself and takes his licks from me…’he’ll do’ “.
“He’ll do” to me was a comment that meant “the boy’s strong and spunky and we’re headed for some tough worlk/times to build this ranch…” Not a single reference to homosexuality in it.
It does have a distinct tone of homosexuality to it. Note the scene at 2:16 where John Wayne remarks to his partner “He’ll do”, strongly inferring that he and his partner would like to engage in some anal sex with the boy.
Couldn’t find your cd–email me honkytonksue@gmail.com
HonkytonkSue2
September 26, 2012 at 4:03 am
I think the most memorable thing about this movie is the music score. Longhorns were raised for their hides, not the beef, the beef was rather tough. Nowadays they butcher cattle at 16 months, when the cattle are fully grown. Feeding them after that would be a loss of money. Dairy cows live for 7 or 8 years though. I sometimes wonder if the beef at fast food joints isn’t old slaughtered dairy cows. Anyone know?
gallantrycross
September 26, 2012 at 4:26 am
It is a movie for everyone, about men. Far From The Madding Crowd or Tess, of the D’Urbervilles were “woman’s” stories but, I loved them both due, to Hardy’s great writing. A woman can influence a man though, in ways he doesn’t see coming; there is a thing called, “the love of your life”. That’s a CD I wrote & recorded in the picture, google it & tell me what you think. I’m re-writing a novel I just finished…”Jamie Robbins”. Kindles may make publishing easier. Good to talk to you.
AllusCats
September 26, 2012 at 5:02 am
I love MAN’S movies, I love men with passion who work to accomplish their big, tough goals. This is a ‘Classic’ man’s story of the relationships of men’s love, loyalties, respect and’getting the job done’. .Funny how the ‘interference’ of one woman can change the out come of the story. Tom and Matthew cam out ‘father and son’ instead of one of them Dead.
HonkytonkSue2
September 26, 2012 at 5:33 am
There are the cliche type of men who live only for sex(or think that sex is love)and can’t grasp the concept of real love. Unfortunately, I have known a few of those. Inferring homosexuality here is a total distortion of reality. Tom Dunson’s comment was a sign of respect for the boy’s gumption in standing up to him. He recognized that he had a strong character, possessed self-respect and confidence and would fight if he had to. Their relationship was built on respect, father-son love
HonkytonkSue2
September 26, 2012 at 6:00 am
Some may find this hard to believe, butI see Wayne’s and Walter Brennan’s characters right out of Greek drama. Walter Brennan’s character would have been Wayne’s slave in an ancient Greek play. Notice how Brennan is at Wayne’s beck and call. Just like a modern manservant. .
cqwittygard1
September 26, 2012 at 6:45 am
Norristerse, also remember it was Irving Berlin, born in Russia, who wrote GOD BLESS AMERICA.
cqwittygard1
September 26, 2012 at 7:15 am
00:51 i wouldn’t do dat agian, i said don’t do dat agian. look at his eyes when he says it its funny.
hiimronstuart1
September 26, 2012 at 7:57 am
good on you for sticking up for paul newman. i hope it doesn’t traumatise you to learn he wasn’t as hung up about poofs as you are.
nuitetjuors1
September 26, 2012 at 8:38 am
is this part 2?
fightinside1
September 26, 2012 at 9:11 am
Howard Hawks was married three times and had one daughter. Homosexual undertones? You can make anything filth if you want to. These were different times not a place where gays flaunted themselves like a carnivorous bacteria infecting everything they touch. I don’t know what biased documentation you read. Sounds like the same wacko that recently published a pathetic slur against Paul Newman.
4295eye
September 26, 2012 at 10:08 am
cowboys mexicans and indians it’s a party
zOMGLaserGunzPewPew
September 26, 2012 at 10:26 am
Thise filmeis never die
mrlord9111
September 26, 2012 at 11:24 am
it’s good the movies on, but they forgot the gap where he finishes killing an indian in the first part
ragingbull5150
September 26, 2012 at 12:14 pm
John Wayne represents the heterosexual man and not some homosexual agenda. Poor Howard Hawks. If he is trying to introduce strange ideas into a hard past that men had hard times just to endure, then maybe Mr. hawks wasn’t that much of an artist, but he was a social activists. I believe in all the good things about the USA the land i LOVE!
jamesnewton777
September 26, 2012 at 12:31 pm
@JamesA46. Okay we get it, you know how to use wikipedia.
coreymitchelhoulden
September 26, 2012 at 12:57 pm
Sorry I muddled the name, and please don’t be so serious about it. It’s a documented fact that Hawks’ movies presented homosexual undertones in a subtle but positive way. To deny it would be ignoring a large part of Hawks’ film work.
Viersen
September 26, 2012 at 1:22 pm
Its Howard Hawks you idiot and its not about ‘man love’ its about its about the relationship between father and son.
dan2009
September 26, 2012 at 1:58 pm
Hudson Hawks has even said before he died that many of his movies were about manlove, although this was never brought to the forefront of his movies (likely due to critical reaction and the time period). This movie is no exception. I’m not trolling, look it up.
Viersen
September 26, 2012 at 2:08 pm
Don’t either of these gentlemen understand the terms of the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo? Land needs to be stolen legally, with Lawyers, not with bullets. The bullets come later.
packjim56
September 26, 2012 at 2:11 pm
hs=horse shit , chan.you little fag. you too mcgready. why don’t the both of you go to the bowling alley bathroom and write some cute shit on the walls and leave the rest of the men here alone.
01sircharles
September 26, 2012 at 2:19 pm
Everything in art is…a matter of interpretation. But, it seems that John Wayne was telling W. Brennan…”ok, here’s this crazy kid who could be a burden to us since, he just saw the wagon train murdered by Indians and yet, he sticks up for himself and takes his licks from me…’he’ll do’ “.
AllusCats
September 26, 2012 at 3:04 pm
A matter of artistic interpretation I suppose…
hschan4
September 26, 2012 at 3:06 pm
“He’ll do” to me was a comment that meant “the boy’s strong and spunky and we’re headed for some tough worlk/times to build this ranch…” Not a single reference to homosexuality in it.
AllusCats
September 26, 2012 at 3:18 pm
It does have a distinct tone of homosexuality to it. Note the scene at 2:16 where John Wayne remarks to his partner “He’ll do”, strongly inferring that he and his partner would like to engage in some anal sex with the boy.
hschan4
September 26, 2012 at 4:13 pm