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2 Responses to organic farming?

1. BELLA HAS THE BEST ANSWER FOR THAT
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   There are no cons in the long run at least not for the small farmer ,

   I am not talking about Corporate organic farming

   The only concern of Corporate farming is profits and the long term health of the Environment( like water supplies and soil) is to them less important nor The bad effects on our
   bodies,Because of the chemicals they use .

   But this is the short term view,because many lands end up exhausted , Polluted or as desert .

   Incas ,Mayas ,Aztecs thought about farming for centuries ,so their vision and application had more depth

   Organic is about sustainability
   and that means ,both the production and the soil improve with time ,http://byderule.multiply.com/journal/item/4

   And It requires Intelligence,knowledge of the elements and plants ,and love for the soil and integrity as well as more labor ,so it seems more expensive, at first .

   One begins to get the idea, after a few years ,but it can be
   a few hundred ,when one has healthy soil ,without pests , and a fruitful diverse production in a healthy community,when it really makes sense.

   PERMACULTURE

   Permaculture is the best form of Organic farming because it includes so many other concepts
   like land design and water harvesting ,organic pest control ,diversity and guild planting,using and creating energy flows,
   mulching ,working with niches ,etc

   so first what is Permaculture
   http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AvwzVgiEYEuCyWR5maE2O0_sy6IX;_ylv=3?qid=20070621234541AAcarVJ
   http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=Aqc9OaSnYsr0K1ea50CmRO3sy6IX;_ylv=3?qid=20070815183923AA8E0NK
   how does Permaculture compare to other types of land management
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   ORGANIC FARMING

   The only real organic farming you can be sure of is if you do it yourself or personally know the people.

   .The label Organic sells for more ,and some farmers will adopt the label to make more money.

   Some think that not to use chemicals means

   organic farming.

   Chemicals is cheaper ,because one works with kilos ,pick up trucks and less labor

   But real Organic signifies many tons of organic material ,compost ,mulch and so on..so bigger equipment is needed,tractors and trailers big trucks ,and more labor .

   In theory pure Organic means no Harmful Chemicals ,no Pesticides ,herbicides or fertilizers ,

   But when faced with a plague it is easy to reach for an emergency method ,

   And people that set out on Organic Farming face these problems especially in the beginning,

   Because Organic pest control,.
   takes time to set up and running,such as producing wasps to combat caterpillars ,breed Chooks ,Silkeys or Bantams(for running or hopping pests) get them living as a component within the concept ,with their shelters etc .
   or encouraging birds to eat caterpillars
   the potions made from tobacco ,Lavender,Chilli,etc are a lot quicker.

   The production of sufficient compost or to grow for mulch also takes time.

   All in all a 100 % Organic situation may take a few years before it is established .

   So instant Organic farming is not possible and the change over takes time .

   During which time even the best intended person can stoop to half truths.

   As to why Organic is better
   for the consumer it is of course much healthier.
   no nasty chemical to have sterile babies from and a whole range of possible health hazards

   For the soil it is much better because the soils gain in quality instead of tiring it out or polluting it

   But is is a lot more work . So it takes enthusiast ,a demanding Market and energy to make it happen .

   the Ancient agricultural method were Organic because there was nothing else ,and some of this farming has proved to be sustainable after even a thousand years
   such as the Inca terraces or the Aztec Chinampas

   Modern farming is about cutting costs ,and with less and less labor ,and we are paying the price for that ,
   with desertification and a range of illnesses loss of land ,loss of water ,and loss of soil

   In Mexico are many examples of sustainable ancient farming ,but the Mexican farmer is very hard headed about taking advice from mere natives
   Their invading culture wiped all Native memories of the board including the agriculture

   And on top of that It has been and is the Government who is peddling the chemicals as well as high bred seeds to addict the farmer to these products and then control them and profit from them .

   in 100 years thousands of species of local seeds have been systematically destroyed .
   Everybody must start to produce their own seeds again and preserve indigenous ones that are still around ,because they are hardier and more disease resistant ,even though they may not look as pretty on the shelf –

   Why do people prefer Organic
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   Pesticides
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   you will find more relevant questions and answers here http://byderule.multiply.com/journal/item/5,under Soil,Plants and Permaculture

   

   byderule
   August 6, 2011 at 3:37 am
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2. The pros of “organic” farming are the benefits to the farmers and distributors while the cons are for consumers and the environment.

   Pros:
   Profit- the “organic” label enables a retailer to charge prices that are 200-500% higher for the product.

   Cons:
   Land use- organic farms produce lower yields, resulting in deforestation as more land is cleared to produce the same amount of food.
   Soil erosion- organic farms do not use herbicides for weed control, resulting in soil loss due to heavy tilling.
   Energy use- increased tilling requires the consumption of more gasoline or diesel fuel to operate the farm.
   Biohazards- organically grown produce often contains e. coli, salmonella and other microbes due to contact with manure. Consumers of organic produce are four times more likely to contract food-borne illnesses.
   Pesticides- because organic farms use less effective pesticides, crops are sprayed more frequently and greater volumes of pesticides are used on organic farms than on modern farms.
   Crop damage- many organic fruits and vegetables are damaged by worms and insects.
   Shelf life- organic produce rots faster than modern produce due to bacterial contamination, insect damage and the lack of protective chemicals.

   

   jleblanc42
   August 6, 2011 at 3:40 am
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