Mittleider Garden Method: How To Build A Grow Box. One of the keys to the Mittleider gardening method is that the grow boxes, or raised garden beds, be level…
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25 Responses to Mittleider Garden Method: How To Build A Grow Box
Yes, they would work fine. They would costs more, take up more space, be more work and be more expensive but they would work.
Please do not put the pegs inside. The Mittleider Gardening Course book specifically states to put them on the outside of the box. You should not have any grass by the boxes only bare dirt.
Tip, put your support pegs or stakes on the inside of the box, your lawnmower can get flush with the box, and it looks cleaner if you paint them afterwards as well.
love your videos!!! one question-can i use cinderblocks instead of lumber? i have tons of block and would like to use them if it would work. thanks and please keep your videos coming!!!!!
It is work. But for me it is worth the effort for the amazing results I get. I have tried gardening methods that are less work but they also have less production and the plants are less healthy. For me there has to be a balance between work and results. This method has by far the greatest reward for the effort. Of course you don’t have to build a raised bed. You can make a soil bed and follow the same Mittleider gardening method for great results.
Really surprised that you use pressure treated lumber. I know it will last longer, but I worry about the chemicals leaching into the soil. Can’t be good for you, or the veggies. Wouldn’t it be much healthier to bite the bullet and replace those that rot during the year?
Michael L. HARPOLD
April 19, 2013 at 8:13 pm Reply
Thanks a lot.
forhisglory forhisglory
April 19, 2013 at 9:06 pm Reply
I can’t put a workable link in a comment but I there is one below the video in the “more info” section. Please use that to go to their site then go to “Shop”.
Hi can you please share the link or company where you buy your Mittleider weekly fertilizer.
forhisglory forhisglory
April 19, 2013 at 10:48 pm Reply
With the corners it’s a lot stronger if you don’t screw directly into the end grain. On my beds I have 2×4 standing upright in the joint so I can have the screws against the grain from both directions.
My procedure: (1) use 16′ 2×8’s [because they come with extra inches so that cut pieces really are the stated lengths]; (2) excavate up to 8″ to create a level bed; (3) lay a double layer of commercial weed blocker; (4) fill with 5 parts (real) top soil, 2 parts expanded shale and 1 part humus with not more than 20% animal manure. I am programming a garden planner so that 1 sq ft sections are filled from 58 veggies with the same season, pH, watering and fertilizing requirements. You’re good.
My wife and I use different gardening approaches. The one thing we have in common is we know if you want healthy plants and awesome produce you need to fertilize once a week. The advantage of the Mittleider method is you know your plants are getting 100% of all the minerals and trace minerals for full health which will produce nutritious frouts and vegetables. We have learned it costs a lot of money to short cut this step in reduced health and harvest. Definitely fertilize weekly.
And….Why is it necassary that grow box must be level? Are you going to line the boxes with a liner with an over flow for a self watering system or are you just anal-retentive?
Isn’t there a big drawback with using the Mittleider method, like having to treat the soil once or twice a week with a combination of lime, Epsom salt, etc. For a bigger garden it would be hundreds of pounds a month of need materials. I’m I wrong?
Excellent. Actually you will need both newspaper and cardboard. The newspaper is needed because it is soft and pliable so it will suffocate the grass. The cardboard is used to push down the newspaper and completely block out light. Where we only had cardboard the grass and weeds grew through it.
ld, i contacted a local security door company for the cardboard boxies that surround there doors. they were more than happy for me to come over and take as many empties as possible. the cardboard is much better i think to kill the grass beneath the mulch than newspaper. just a suggestion
Actually, to be honest, the best material to use for raised beds is earthbags … for the border, with a small pipe at the bottom to let excess water out. This would be an all natural, ever lasting box. Even if the earthbags bio-dgrade, the cement mixed with the dirt will keep the structure there for 10’s of years … and if you cover the bags in some sort of grout or other covering, it will last 100’s of years … all natural, nearly permanent. Just my suggestion.
TheGrowingAwareness
April 20, 2013 at 2:43 am Reply
So my question is, are you absolutely sure that it is ok? I mean to tell people it is, is a bit of stretch to me, but it is ONLY my OPINION … I simply do not know .. I am asking based on my 19 years of carpentry and research.
TheGrowingAwareness
April 20, 2013 at 2:54 am Reply
Furthermore, ALL compaies that make treated lumber recomentd that the lumber dry out for 5 – 8 months before staining “as the chemicals will not evaporate out before then”.
We are not able to stain the material due to the chemicals in it for 5 to 8 months, but it is ok for raised beds? I just don’t know about that one .. I will stick to normal wood though it will not last as long.
TheGrowingAwareness
April 20, 2013 at 3:05 am Reply
Yes, they would work fine. They would costs more, take up more space, be more work and be more expensive but they would work.
LDSPrepper
April 19, 2013 at 3:51 pm
what about using cinder blocks instead of lumber?
merddyn2002
April 19, 2013 at 4:14 pm
Please do not put the pegs inside. The Mittleider Gardening Course book specifically states to put them on the outside of the box. You should not have any grass by the boxes only bare dirt.
LDSPrepper
April 19, 2013 at 5:02 pm
Tip, put your support pegs or stakes on the inside of the box, your lawnmower can get flush with the box, and it looks cleaner if you paint them afterwards as well.
PsychoMantisCFH
April 19, 2013 at 5:02 pm
Yes, cinder blocks work great. The goal is to have an 8″ deep box so you may have to use a double row of blocks.
LDSPrepper
April 19, 2013 at 5:38 pm
love your videos!!! one question-can i use cinderblocks instead of lumber? i have tons of block and would like to use them if it would work. thanks and please keep your videos coming!!!!!
cathy c
April 19, 2013 at 6:32 pm
It is work. But for me it is worth the effort for the amazing results I get. I have tried gardening methods that are less work but they also have less production and the plants are less healthy. For me there has to be a balance between work and results. This method has by far the greatest reward for the effort. Of course you don’t have to build a raised bed. You can make a soil bed and follow the same Mittleider gardening method for great results.
LDSPrepper
April 19, 2013 at 7:20 pm
I LOVE THIS VIDEO,BUT FOR ME JUST TO MUCH WORK FOR GARDENING .BUT I LOVE YOUR VIDEO.
memberson
April 19, 2013 at 7:33 pm
Thank you for your concern. Modern pressure treated lumber is perfectly safe to use.
LDSPrepper
April 19, 2013 at 7:56 pm
Really surprised that you use pressure treated lumber. I know it will last longer, but I worry about the chemicals leaching into the soil. Can’t be good for you, or the veggies. Wouldn’t it be much healthier to bite the bullet and replace those that rot during the year?
Michael L. HARPOLD
April 19, 2013 at 8:13 pm
Thanks a lot.
forhisglory forhisglory
April 19, 2013 at 9:06 pm
I can’t put a workable link in a comment but I there is one below the video in the “more info” section. Please use that to go to their site then go to “Shop”.
LDSPrepper
April 19, 2013 at 9:52 pm
Hi can you please share the link or company where you buy your Mittleider weekly fertilizer.
forhisglory forhisglory
April 19, 2013 at 10:48 pm
With the corners it’s a lot stronger if you don’t screw directly into the end grain. On my beds I have 2×4 standing upright in the joint so I can have the screws against the grain from both directions.
jman41171
April 19, 2013 at 10:49 pm
Sounds awesome. Thanks for sharing.
LDSPrepper
April 19, 2013 at 10:59 pm
My procedure: (1) use 16′ 2×8’s [because they come with extra inches so that cut pieces really are the stated lengths]; (2) excavate up to 8″ to create a level bed; (3) lay a double layer of commercial weed blocker; (4) fill with 5 parts (real) top soil, 2 parts expanded shale and 1 part humus with not more than 20% animal manure. I am programming a garden planner so that 1 sq ft sections are filled from 58 veggies with the same season, pH, watering and fertilizing requirements. You’re good.
DroidPals
April 19, 2013 at 11:54 pm
My wife and I use different gardening approaches. The one thing we have in common is we know if you want healthy plants and awesome produce you need to fertilize once a week. The advantage of the Mittleider method is you know your plants are getting 100% of all the minerals and trace minerals for full health which will produce nutritious frouts and vegetables. We have learned it costs a lot of money to short cut this step in reduced health and harvest. Definitely fertilize weekly.
LDSPrepper
April 20, 2013 at 12:18 am
Opps…I was watching your video when I type the comment. I was getting bore when all the detail of your effort to level the boxes.
TheTx2styp
April 20, 2013 at 12:36 am
And….Why is it necassary that grow box must be level? Are you going to line the boxes with a liner with an over flow for a self watering system or are you just anal-retentive?
TheTx2styp
April 20, 2013 at 1:20 am
Isn’t there a big drawback with using the Mittleider method, like having to treat the soil once or twice a week with a combination of lime, Epsom salt, etc. For a bigger garden it would be hundreds of pounds a month of need materials. I’m I wrong?
GivingYouTruth
April 20, 2013 at 1:49 am
Excellent. Actually you will need both newspaper and cardboard. The newspaper is needed because it is soft and pliable so it will suffocate the grass. The cardboard is used to push down the newspaper and completely block out light. Where we only had cardboard the grass and weeds grew through it.
LDSPrepper
April 20, 2013 at 2:11 am
ld, i contacted a local security door company for the cardboard boxies that surround there doors. they were more than happy for me to come over and take as many empties as possible. the cardboard is much better i think to kill the grass beneath the mulch than newspaper. just a suggestion
spockady
April 20, 2013 at 2:22 am
Actually, to be honest, the best material to use for raised beds is earthbags … for the border, with a small pipe at the bottom to let excess water out. This would be an all natural, ever lasting box. Even if the earthbags bio-dgrade, the cement mixed with the dirt will keep the structure there for 10’s of years … and if you cover the bags in some sort of grout or other covering, it will last 100’s of years … all natural, nearly permanent. Just my suggestion.
TheGrowingAwareness
April 20, 2013 at 2:43 am
So my question is, are you absolutely sure that it is ok? I mean to tell people it is, is a bit of stretch to me, but it is ONLY my OPINION … I simply do not know .. I am asking based on my 19 years of carpentry and research.
TheGrowingAwareness
April 20, 2013 at 2:54 am
Furthermore, ALL compaies that make treated lumber recomentd that the lumber dry out for 5 – 8 months before staining “as the chemicals will not evaporate out before then”.
We are not able to stain the material due to the chemicals in it for 5 to 8 months, but it is ok for raised beds? I just don’t know about that one .. I will stick to normal wood though it will not last as long.
TheGrowingAwareness
April 20, 2013 at 3:05 am