How can I stop eating red meat?

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Karmrakvank is an abandoned Armenian monastery in the historical Rshtunik district of Vaspurakan Province. It is now located in the Gevaş district of Van province in Turkey, and is also now known as Göründü Kilise after the name of the nearest village, and Kirmizi Kilise (Reddish Church) on account of the colour of its brick dome. Göründü, now inhabited by Kurds, was the Armenian village of Mokhrapet.

Little is known about the monastery’s history – a tradition ascribed its founding to Gagik Artsruni of Vaspurakan. This king was responsible for founding many monasteries in this region, most notably Holy Cross church on Aght’amar Island, and the monastery of St. George of Goms. Karmrakvank got its name from a reliquary the monastery possessed that was decorated with red gemstones and contained a fragment of the True Cross.

In the late 19th century Karmrakvank was one of the few remaining possessions of the Aghtamar Catholicosate. In 1895 it was plundered by Kurds.

General Description
The monastery is located at the upper end of a small valley that descends to the shore of Lake Van.

The monastic complex survives as two churches and a ruinous defensive wall. The main church, called Surp Astvadzadzin (church of the Holy Mother of God), is a large structure with a dome above a tall drum. On its north side, and built against its north wall, is a smaller church whose name is unknown. Both churches are built of irregularly shaped blocks of schist stone. The defensive wall is still fairly intact on the eastern and northern sides of the monastery where it is 1.4 metres thick. On the southern side the wall has completely collapsed and the location of the entrance cannot be identified.

Except for the two churches, there are no surviving original structures within the wall’s precincts. The cluster of single story buildings at the north-western end of the enclosure is modern and postdates the abandonment of the monastery (Thierry identifies them incorrectly as monastic cells). Used in the past as sheep folds and cow barns, they are now derelict and in a state of collapse.

Outside the walls, a little to the southeast of the main church, are the remains of a cemetery. Most of its graves have been dug up by treasure hunters and their gravestones smashed.

There is a spring of drinking water in the base of the valley directly below the monastery. So much of the water is now piped away to further down the valley that it is often dry by summer. The original location of the spring’s outlet is not certain.

Architectural Analysis
Church of the Holy Mother of God (Surp Astvadzadzin)
The plan of this church is rectangular externally. Internally it is a variation on the ‘domed-hall’ plan. Thierry termed it a ‘domed nave’ (nef à coupole): a nave with a barrel vault that is cut in the middle by a dome on pendentives supported by engaged piers. In a typical domed-hall plan, the engaged piers are deep enough to create side arms that extend to the north and south. However, in this church the side arms are reduced to a stepped recession of only some 60cm (though they are still articulated externally through pitched gables). Thierry identified several nearby churches with similar plans, and speculated if it was an architectural form distinctive to Armenian churches in the Van region.

The entrance into the church is on the west facade. On this facade there are also two other doorways located so high above the ground level that they could only have ever been reached by ladders. Similar upper-level doorways exist on at least two other surviving monastic churches in the Lake Van region, at the St. George of Goms and St. Thomas of Gandzak monasteries. The ones on the St. George church are inaccessible, but those on the Gandzak church can be accessed by climbing onto the roof of its narthex. On that church, each door leads to a small, narrow chamber with a stone altar against its east wall. The layout at Karmrakvank’s Surp Astvadzadzin church is a little different: each door leads to a chamber that is open on one side, forming a gallery that overlooks the nave. Thierry (citing Sargissian’s "Description of Little and Great Armenia" from 1864) says that these galleries were once enclosed by a grill and were traditionally regarded as royal oratories. There are traces of a stone balcony along the edge of each gallery, and in the east wall of each chamber there is a niche.

The internal dimensions of the church are 11 metres by 5.4 metres. The dome is 13.25 metres above the current floor level, but a layer of at least 1 metre of earth and debris covers the original floor level.

The apse of the church is horseshoe-shaped. Its domical vault has a row of clay jars set into its base to enhance the acoustics inside the church. There are more clay jars set into the barrel vault of the west arm of the church. On the south side of the apse is a small, windowless chamber that is too small to be a side chapel but may have been a storage area.

The drum of the church is cylindrical internally, octagonal externally, and supports a half-hemisphere dome. Both drum and dome are constructed of brick. The drum has four windows. Above the windows on the outside are hooded shapes that hark back to the hooded mouldings found above the windows of earlier medieval Armenian churches. But these are not true mouldings since they are inset into the drum. Above the level of the windows is a single course of brickwork laid for decorative effect, with the bricks set at angles. Thirteen courses above this is a single course of stonework: a band of red tufa carved with a six-strand interlace. The octagonal pyramid-roof of the dome has a very steep pitch, and is clad with stone slabs. The surface of the cladding is articulated by raised bands that run along the edges and down the middle of each face.

The church originally had a more highly finished exterior than its present condition suggests. The pitched roofs of the church were clad in stone slabs, now mostly gone, that rested on a cornice of finished stone. The exterior walls still retain a fragmentary coating of plaster. On the west facade the plaster exists only on the upper parts and seems to break off at the same level, suggesting that there might once have been a single-story structure in from of the church.

At the apex of the west gable is a partially-destroyed plaque with an inscription in Armenian that is too worn to decipher. On the same gable, on its cornice at the south west corner, is a short inscription dated 1878 that might refer to a repair of the roof. The church has no other surviving building inscriptions that help with its dating. One of the gallery doorways is formed from a reused khachkar. It has an inscription, stating that it was erected in 1306 by a Father Thaddeus as a memorial to Christ There are numerous other khachkars of simpler designs reused throughout the walls of the church, both externally and internally. A number of them also have dates: Thierry mentions 1276, 1347, 1380, and 1411. This would suggest that the church was built sometime after the early 15th century. The quantity of reused khachkars indicates that there must have been a religious structure on the site before the present church. There are also a number of inscribed stones on the outside walls: many of these are probably votive inscriptions and are not reused material.

A major earthquake hit the Van region in 1648, destroying numerous churches and requiring their rebuilding. A design feature of these post-1648 churches is the method of transition between the pitched roof of the nave and the vertical surface of the drum: this is often accomplished using a flat, triangular-shaped plane set at 45-degrees (see photo 8 on the Surp Grigor page for an example). This design solution was probably inspired by Muslim kumbets, and is not a form found on earlier Armenian churches. However, at Karmrakvank the traditional solution is still used: a cube with a double-pitched roof (see photo 11 on the Kizilkilise page for an example). This seems to indicate that the church, including its brick dome, was not built after 1648.

The North Church
This church is smaller than the main church (the internal dimensions are 6.54m by 3.66m), and it has a different design and a much lower construction quality. It is a barrel-vaulted, single-nave chapel with a horseshoe-shaped eastern apse. The barrel vault is strengthened by a transverse rib supported by pilasters. The north and south walls are articulated as a blind arcade with two very crudely shaped arches.

The entrance into the north church is through its west wall. However, this doorway is now blocked-up and a new entrance has been roughly hacked through the south wall, leading directly into the south church. Thierry saw significance in this opening, proposing that it dated back to the building of the south church and indicated that the north church was older than the south church. I believe it has no significance: the opening only dates from after the monastery’s abandonment and is just a crude breaking-through of the wall to enable the interiors of both churches to be used as a single sheep-fold. The north church is almost certainly younger than the south church because the vault of the north church is supported mostly by the north wall of south church.

Question by vykky: How can I stop eating red meat?
I was raised in the south and red meat is in it’s own food group here. Anyways it seems like all of my meals are revolved around red meat. How can I stop eating red meat? Eventually I’d like to stop eating all meat. But I’m taking one step at a time. Thanks.
lol..my husband said he’d die if I stopped bringing red meat in the house.

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13 Responses to How can I stop eating red meat?

  1. just take one step at time and you will easly stop eating meat, thou also try and eat white meat.

    raksha p
    October 31, 2013 at 6:44 am
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  2. Don’t be a quitter, red meat is good for you. Death would be the best option for quitting outright though.

    oilersrule
    October 31, 2013 at 7:32 am
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  3. if i had to i would eat red meat every so often like once maybe twice a year, try seafood as an alternative

    youngj042004
    October 31, 2013 at 8:32 am
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  4. fish, fish and more fish. the variety in the tastes of different kinds of fish is amazing, if you’re weary of strong flavours go for softer tastes like haddock/whiting/cod to ease yourself in!!

    also eat bigger vegetables, don’t cut them up small, you’ll feel more like you’re chomping into something meaty.

    best of luck!

    reillser
    October 31, 2013 at 8:45 am
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  5. try getting faux meat. it’s just as healthy and it comes in anything (pepperoni, chicken burgers, bacon, taco meat, balogni, etc.) it tastes the exact same too

    t_lubbz
    October 31, 2013 at 8:56 am
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  6. Read the pages on this site:

    http://www.slaughterhousecam.com/

    aidensmom
    October 31, 2013 at 9:55 am
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  7. Watch the film Faces Of Death when they show the slaughter house footage! Rotten.com has the series for sale I think?

    Nikolai
    October 31, 2013 at 10:54 am
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  8. Buy more fish, chicken and even turkey. Ground turkey, when cooked in a chili or seasoned dish, is easily mistaken for hamburger and has a similar texture.

    If you don’t make a big deal about it your husband may not even notice the change. If he does, tell him the prices were too high and you passed the meat aisle to save some money for that week.

    Do some Internet research and show your husband how dangerous it is to eat too much red meat. It’s unhealthy and expensive and there are other tasty alternatives.

    Since red meat is a ‘food group’ where you’re from… how many of your relatives have heart disease or even cancers?

    When it comes down to health and chances for heart attack people tend to change the way they feel about red meat, fried foods and fast food in general.

    Donna
    October 31, 2013 at 11:50 am
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  9. I am a retired pilot, and I have seen lots of my friends go under the knife for triple, quadrople heart-bypass. Nobody wants to admit that eating too much meat which is also linked with fats, is bad to your health. I myself becames weak when I abstain eating meat. But then, I have no other choice. I am 67 and my youngest kid is only 8 yrs old. I have to live a little longer to raise my children. From 170/120, my blood pressure at present is 110/70. Hard workouts and vegie, a little starch, made me this way. I can stay on a treadmill for 50 mins. non-stop. Nothing to boast for but just reality. You will never win eating meat.
    The pretty flight attendant would came to the cocpit and say, “Captain, we have steak, pork chop, mix vegie, or fish. Naturally, he would say, ‘give me steak’. I instead would take salad. My Captain hasn’t reach his retirement, he ended up with arthritis, high blood pressure, and etc. I look half starve, but I’m O. K.

    samontehe
    October 31, 2013 at 12:17 pm
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  10. You can start by only buy the meat that it will absolutely be cooked the same day. Then, just stop buying it to home. Your boyfriend still can eat it outside.

    Kun Miang
    October 31, 2013 at 12:18 pm
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  11. Start by using Turkey meat, for chili. spaghetti, turkey burgers are the bomb. Slowly space out the meat in Your diet, don’t object others to your desires,I was raised by southern parents, and for us pork fat ruled. Beef wasn’t that important to us. I’ve learned to cook meatloaf, chilli, spagetti and burgers without beef. I don’t miss it that much, Chicken and Pork, and Turkey rule, and to be honest. There are alot of things you can eat that do not include red meat. Research and research, you’ll find your way.

    luvsmusiz
    October 31, 2013 at 12:23 pm
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  12. so you wont to stop eating red meat and eventually quit eating meat
    well did you know you need to eat meat becose you need so mutch fat for your brain to work right

    ben r
    October 31, 2013 at 12:39 pm
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  13. Don’t stop eating the meat! Meat is goooooddddd! If you don’t love meat, you’re crazy! EAT IT EAT THE MEAT EAT IT EAT IT IT’S GOOD MEAAAAAAAT

    Meat Loaf
    October 31, 2013 at 1:19 pm
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