December 2011 Seasteading meetup – Aquaculture presentation
Video of the Dec 20th , 2011 Seasteading meetup featuring the presentation on aquaculture, live video-conferencing with Singapore and interesting Q/A.
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@niklasbastholmhansen
If the US doesn’t care you really haven’t changed society. If you are only talking about a few structures in the middle of the ocean what’s all the hype about changing society?! The only real socio-economic change that ever happened in the world was because of the labor movement. That goes to the heart of establishment power: workers getting together and demanding a fair share of the pie gets in their pockets and that’s the only talk the political class understands.
szatmar666
March 4, 2012 at 10:13 am
The way I can see this being used by rogue actors however is to avoid laws and do harm to innocent people. For instance there is an effort called BLUESEED that’s planning to skirt immigration laws in order to undermine the wages of educated americans. So you go to college, get a dregree and find yourself in 100k debt as a result but now you are forced by these pirates to compete against semi legal peasant workers educated in Chinese and Indian public schools?! It’s plain theft nothing else.
szatmar666
March 4, 2012 at 10:42 am
The main flaw of the idea is that it gives the false impression that there is a way to build a better world by running away from social struggle. There is no way to forge a better american society other than taking over the US government and changing it from within because the US is especially notorious in weeding out all real alternatives that threaten its legitimacy. They’ll bomb and invade anyone who says they have a different way. If they don’t crack down on U that’s cause U R no different!
szatmar666
March 4, 2012 at 11:40 am
Strange how Americans assume the US military will care about seasteads founded by Singaporeans between Indian and Indonesian EEZs… There world is bigger than you think my friend. And your government really doesn’t care what I do on my end of the globe =)
OnHandAgrarian
March 4, 2012 at 12:19 pm
@john5246
I think you are wrong. The US will not care for a small structure in the ocean, they ahve other things to do. the point about seasteading is to show people that we need competition in production of laws, which is an educational task. We dont need a lot of people to move to the sea to show this. The great thing about seasteading is not on the sea. It is to educate people about how we could be living on the shore.
niklasbastholmhansen
March 4, 2012 at 12:53 pm
What do you say to the people who insist that there is no way you can escape the US Military even if you are on the sea. The US Military will build a base on your boat/structure, then shortly after you will be introduced to central banking.
So it sounds like a nice idea but you’re not going to be able to escape the USA and central banking by being out on the sea. Nice try though 😉
john5246
March 4, 2012 at 1:30 pm